I was so happy to have a new laptop to test and install… but now I’m really pissed : the laptop crashes for some unknown reason.
It looks like there was an immediate shutdown (like cutting off the power), in the middle of a work session, and without prior symptom of a problem, and of course everything I’m doing is lost.
I wonder if it’s a hardware problem or linked to some software bug or misconfiguration somehow… The machine is brand new, and did work allright for the first week, although I was not doing intensive stuff all the time (basically mainly testing what needed to be installed to run a Debian system on it).
Maybe this would be related to a bad support of some sort of hardware in GNU/Linux ? … I’ve experienced this crahses on 2.6.11 and also on 2.6.8…
Strange, and until now, the Dell diagnostic tools are working well : all tests passed… maybe the machine is not up long enough for it to find the problem ? … or it’s because this happens only with Linux and not with Windows 98 ? … how f*ckin annoying this kind of situation can be !
Update : Maybe this is caused by some kind of problem on the AC adapter side. After a power spike or something like that, it’s possible that the AC adapter shut itself down, which causes the system to run on the battery… after a while, the battery empties and the machine suddenly shuts off… I may not have noticed that if I had no battery applet around… I’d better configure some sound alarm of some kind when APM events occur…
Update 08/08/2005 : Now, I have other ideas about this problem… :
First, the problem also appeared when running on battery… so it’s not the AC adapter’s fault… maybe the battery ?
Second : I tried and use the same hard disk (hence the system) on another identical machine, in case it would be the OS/software… and it turned out that the same problem happened on the other machine. So this may well be related to software… or the harddrive ?
Something else I noticed is that the latest crash occured when the screensaver was active, displaying a 3D molecule… and it reminded me of problems years agon on machines when 3D hardware acceleration was activated…
I’ve then turned off the DRI support in my XF86Config-4 file, and will see if this has an impact on the problem, and maybe fixes it ? In the meantime, I opened a ticket at Dell… and they suggest I check the RAM banks… I’ll try that also… and will keep my blog posted.
Update 09/08/2005 : Completely new hypothesis : actually, it turns out that it could be a problem with the power and a defective home-made multi-plug…
It looks like there was a short circuit in one of the multi-plugs on which my laptop was plugged, which led to having +25 V on the ground wire (external contact) of the adapter’s output connector … and so these 25 V between the external metal parts of the laptop (like the anti-theft cable locked on to my laptop, or the border of the keyboard) and the ground…
But it looks also like the AC adapter was not protecting the laptop : having tried an old adapter from a collegue, I found out that the old one maintained 0 V whereas the new one
would not. Although one should not use deffective multi-plugs, and would expect 0 V on the ground wire, I think there is anyway a problem if the Dell AC adapter is not protecting from such a situation.
So I suppose that the problem of laptop shutting down instantly at random times actually occurred when I was touching it, maybe myself carrying some static charge of some kind, when my watch metalic bandwrist touched the anti-theft cable lock, thus leading to an increased short circuit that the laptop’s hardware detected…
I hope this is the end of the trouble now I have removed the faulty multi-plug, but I will definitely try to get a more protective Dell adapter.
Tell me what you think…
Update 09/08/2005 bis : Well, it looks like it may not be the adapter’s fault, since it happened again… but this time without the faulty multi-plug…
Well, this time I’ve decided not to use powernowd, just to check if this changes anything…
Feeling desperate 🙁
Update 10/08/2005 : This time I can for sure say that there is a problem with the hardware, which is not related to using GNU/Linux : as my machine was booting, and still in the BIOS stages, I touched the anti-theft cable lock with my watch again, and bingo : shut off. Dell is going to replace the motherboard. I hope it will get rid of this problem. Too much static charge on me and may watch ? Too sensitive motherboard ? … anyway, I think I will try to pack the cable’s lock in something plastic to protect the computer from direct contact with the internal metalic parts.
Update 23/08/2005 : I think we have a workaround although no definitive solution. See my latest post on the subject.
Somebody please help me. The AC adapter in the back of my laptop has broken. What can I do to fix it or get power to my laptop! My battery is about to die! PLEASE RESPOND AS SOON AS YOU CAN!!!
when my laptop AC adapter broke, i bought a new one on http://www.laptopsforless.com/laptopacadapter and it has worked great. i would check them out for sure.
Bruce,
How much did you end up spending on your AC adapter? How do the prices compare
with best buy or amazon or ebay? Thanks.
-Ted